8- Going in the Back Door (ft. Mackenzie Moss)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Perfect. All right, we're in this interview. [00:00:02] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:00:03] Speaker A: We're starting. We're in it. It's that Real Deal. [00:00:07] Speaker B: I'm ready. [00:00:08] Speaker A: We're totally. It's in it. We're in it already. All right, we're there. We're there. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Great to meet you. [00:00:13] Speaker A: Great to meet you. Great to meet you. Mackenzie. Mackenzie Moss. I'm Javi Mack. Javi Mac Adult DVD talk. Amazing. Okay, cool. So, you know, I want to ease into these questions. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Okay. I want to ease into this. So you say anal. Sometimes I say it. No, no, no, no. You once said that anal kind of helps with the climax. Do you remember saying that? [00:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah. How do you know that? [00:00:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I just, you know, I do my research. Mackenzie. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Incredible. [00:00:44] Speaker A: If that is your stage name. [00:00:46] Speaker B: If that is your real name. [00:00:47] Speaker A: If that is your real name. Exactly. [00:00:50] Speaker B: No, it does. Yeah, yeah. Anal play. Definitely does Anal play. Yeah, yeah. I don't do anal on camera, though. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Okay. Yet. Because you gotta ease into it. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:03] Speaker A: You can't just go 0 to 100 real quick. Right. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Just giving the people a taste right now. [00:01:09] Speaker A: Taste is good. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:01:12] Speaker A: The anal, just out of nowhere. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Just hit them with it. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Oh, here's a little taste. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:17] Speaker A: You know, the anal. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Okay, good, good. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Because I actually am into anal in my, like, personal life, so I'm excited for that day when people can see my skills. [00:01:30] Speaker A: But, yeah, the anal skills. Not yet. Not yet, not yet. So two questions. First of all, you spurred me into multiple thought processes talking about your personal anal. First question before I forget them. How does, like, what techniques can. Can you teach people to enjoy the anal better? And then we'll go from there. Like, what? Like, what can you teach people? [00:01:55] Speaker B: I mean, definitely, like, using different sized plugs before you put a penis in it. Yes. Because I didn't do that my first time. I did analess you. It worked out. It was fine. But it's definitely, like, better if you practice a lot yourself. Talking about practice, like, you know, like, when you're just like, masturbating by yourself and stuff, you know, like, just have a few different sizes of different things you can put there and then, like, because, you know, there's a difference between just like having something in your butt versus a dick going in and out. [00:02:37] Speaker A: You know, the out part is like, whoa, ow. Keep it in. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Sometimes it depends how loose you are. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Oh, loose. Now you're loose. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Also, like, I would say, like, having orgasms before you, like, actually do it. [00:02:50] Speaker A: So orgasms first, then the dick in the butt. [00:02:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Perfect. All right. We're teaching a lot. A lot of people don't know these things. [00:02:56] Speaker B: I know. It's. We're basically sex ed. [00:02:59] Speaker A: We're helping a lot of anals right now. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. [00:03:03] Speaker A: At least a thousand anals have been saved because of you, Mackenzie. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Thank you. That's true. You're welcome. Thank you. [00:03:08] Speaker A: The anal gods. [00:03:09] Speaker B: If nothing else, I feel so accomplished. [00:03:13] Speaker A: So you said you have anal in your personal life. So, like, what's your personal sexual life like? There's some people that only have sex, you know, that are sex workers, only have sex on camera. But clearly you have, like, some outside. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Well, that was before I was in porn. I've only been in porn for, like, five months, so I'm pretty new. But no, I don't really have. I don't really date outside of porn, really, thing like that. Right now. I'm just, like, kind of concentrated. Concentrated on my work stuff. [00:03:47] Speaker A: So the last time you hooked up with somebody outside of porn was more than five months ago or. Five months? [00:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Wow. [00:03:57] Speaker B: Which is crazy to think about. [00:03:58] Speaker A: It's crazy to think about. No, but it makes sense. You're having sex, like, five times a week. It's like. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Busy. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah, I don't really see the point. It also, like, kind of tires you out for, like. [00:04:13] Speaker A: For work. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. I want to put my all in. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Smart, smart, smart. Okay. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Good thing I'm involved with porn. What? [00:04:22] Speaker B: Stop it. [00:04:24] Speaker A: Joking. Not joking. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Oh, I see you're getting red here. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Oh, red? Am I getting red? I'm blushing. What color do I look when I blush? It's like, kind of like. [00:04:34] Speaker B: You have, like, a red. [00:04:35] Speaker A: I have a radish. Yeah, you do that to me. [00:04:39] Speaker B: What is this? A dating app? [00:04:41] Speaker A: Oh, dating app. It's personal. [00:04:43] Speaker B: This is the adult DVD talk. [00:04:45] Speaker A: DVD talk dating app download now on iOS device and Android. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:51] Speaker A: If you have any other type of phone, then no, you can't have it. Suck it. Yeah, there it is. All right. So you came from New York. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:00] Speaker A: And now you're in la. You were kind of super involved in the New York sex scene. Like bondage and whatnot. That kind of stuff. Right. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't go to, like, any official, like. Like, I. I know there's, like, some organizations I forget. There's one out here that I forget. [00:05:20] Speaker A: Really Kinky stuff. [00:05:21] Speaker B: Yeah, but it was more like among my friends that I already knew we would, like, have kind of have our. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Own, like a book party. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You read about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had, like, this book club where we would all read a book and then come together and have a discussion about it. And then it just kind of became this open space where people could express. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Themselves when they want. Yeah, I need to have a book club. I need to have a sex book club. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:05:50] Speaker A: This is what I've been screwing up this whole time. What have I been doing? [00:05:54] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. No, you need it. [00:05:56] Speaker A: They're like, javier, why do you have a sex book club? You're like, one of two guys. There's, like, 10 girls we don't really get. They're all hot. Like, what's going on, Javier? Yeah, we're just gonna read this sex book. Let's just get tired of discussion, you know? Feel free to get naked. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Make yourself comfortable, everyone. [00:06:17] Speaker A: There's floggers on the cabinet. [00:06:19] Speaker B: That's exactly what I was saying. [00:06:21] Speaker A: That's exactly what's going on. [00:06:23] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty weir much, but, yeah, I don't know. I just, like, kind of fell into this friend group that was just very sexually open. And I also. I feel like that was a very, like, transformatory time in my life where I, like, started to find more about my sexuality and really started to, like, come into my, like, bisexuality as well. That's good. And, yeah, I feel like that was like a time where my sexuality blossomed. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Blossoming friendship. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. [00:06:59] Speaker A: And you. It blossomed a little bit later because you didn't even lose your virginity to 19. [00:07:04] Speaker B: I know. It's crazy to think about now because it's done so much since then. [00:07:07] Speaker A: What? [00:07:08] Speaker B: It was very, very concentrated. But, you know, it was a lot having to do with my student loans. [00:07:20] Speaker A: That's why you got into sex. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Huh. And, yeah, I just kind of felt like I knew that I could. You could use my personality and all of this combined together. [00:07:41] Speaker A: Your love for sex, Right? [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:07:43] Speaker A: And your openness for. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, then it just kind of also became. In college, I was very into, like, my community service center and, like, social justice Y type stuff. And then as I started to get more into sex work, I started really realizing that these are populations that are very underserved and need a voice. And I feel like. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Like, sex workers. [00:08:15] Speaker B: Yeah, sex workers in general. Not just. [00:08:17] Speaker A: I mean, like, underserved. Like, penises are underserved sometimes they're not. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, it's true. And so. [00:08:28] Speaker A: My penis is underserved. It needs serving. Gosh. [00:08:31] Speaker B: Right, Right. Yeah. But, like, you know, like, Even I'm sure you've met a lot of people in porn who feel the stigma, you know, of doing this type of work. And so, you know, eventually I want to do more work in that direction also. So I just kind of, like, became like, I was passionate about my work, doing sex work, but also, like, a secondary, like, reason to continue doing it and what I want to do with my future regarding it. So. [00:09:03] Speaker A: That's awesome. Like, you're very like, you. You planned. You kind of had a plan, which is beautiful. You have a degree. You can kind of articulate yourself amazingly. Thank you. I think that's beautiful. That's a beautiful path. And it's like you're kind of unique, Very unique from a lot of girls. Because your friends and your family were kind of supportive. Can you tell us about that? [00:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Well, like I said, my friends in New York City were all, like, extremely, extremely supportive. [00:09:38] Speaker A: Do it now. We want to see you naked having sex in 4K. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah, basically. No, like, everyone was just like, yes. Like, do it. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Like, do it. Do it. [00:09:50] Speaker B: Doing this. Like, yeah. So that was really amazing. A lot of my friends that I knew in college now know. I didn't, like, directly tell them, but, like, all. All of them have been very cool about it. My family, I told, like, my, like, direct family. My, like, relatives don't really know, or maybe they do by now, but just haven't said anything. But I just, like, typed up a whole email. I was too afraid to, like, do it over the phone because I was afraid of the reaction. [00:10:26] Speaker A: That's a good way to do it. [00:10:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:28] Speaker A: And like, internalize. Internalize it and then, like, how do we respond? Like real people. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But it was. It was just so funny because I was just so afraid of the reaction. I actually, like, blocked their numbers in advance just to, like, not have, like, them coming at me. But, like, they both emailed me back and were like, no. We, like, could tell something was kind of like, going on. Like, we hope you reconsider, like, unblocking us. And like, we, like, support you and whatever you do and, like, trust you. And I was like, wow, okay. This is pretty crazy because I. I don't, like, I knew they weren't gonna, like, shun me, but I also, like, just wasn't sure. Cause it is, like, obviously like a kind of out there thing to go and do. [00:11:17] Speaker A: It's different. It's not, you know, med school, right? [00:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Not quite. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Not quite. A lot of, like, you know, biology involved. [00:11:27] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. [00:11:28] Speaker A: A lot of, like, Poking with instruments, but different instruments. Different instruments, different instruments. [00:11:37] Speaker B: But, yeah, that was really amazing and a cool thing to happen, you know. [00:11:42] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I'm very lucky. [00:11:46] Speaker A: You are. You are. I rarely hear that in this industry. Like, it happens like that. Yeah, yeah. [00:11:53] Speaker B: I just knew that I couldn't hide it, and if so, like. And also, like, I was, I don't know, obviously moving across the country. I couldn't. I knew I wouldn't be able to hide it for very long. So it's just like, fuck it before I do anything. [00:12:06] Speaker A: Does your family watch your art? [00:12:10] Speaker B: Not that I know of. [00:12:13] Speaker A: You also don't ask? [00:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't ask. I don't think they have gone looking for it, from what I know because I was talking to my mom about Instagram once and she was like, wait, I thought you didn't have an Instagram. And I was like, well, for work stuff, I do, but I didn't really elaborate any further. [00:12:33] Speaker A: She doesn't ask questions. She's like, yeah, yeah, that's cool. Well, that's cool. That's dope. Well, this is great. I mean, anything else you want to share with the viewers at home? Anything, you know, coming up that you're excited with? [00:12:51] Speaker B: Anything, you know, I mean, I've been shooting a fair amount, so there should be, like, continuing stream of scenes coming. I'm very excited and grateful for all the opportunities that I've already had. It's been really, really wild. And. Yeah, I'm just, like, excited, you know. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Well, what was. What has been the best sex experience and the worst sex experience? [00:13:16] Speaker B: Oh, that's hard. I haven't really had any bad experiences yet. Um, I would say, like, the best experience so far was probably like, learning that I can, like, actually squirt on camera. [00:13:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Well, because in the beginning of porn, actually, I was like always looking at these girls and, like, was trying to squirt in scenes but couldn't, like, maybe a little bit, but not like to the extent that, like, people want or, like, that's like seeing other girls. And I was like, huh, how do they do that? And then, like, slowly I just, like, was able to, like. I think it's like a comfortable, really comfortability thing on camera. You know, you just have to, like, be more open and like, I feel like that's something like I'm learning and continuing to learn is to just like, be open on camera and like. Yeah, so that was. That was pretty cool. And I can do that pretty well. [00:14:30] Speaker A: So how do you, like, what Are the techniques for the girls out here. How do you squirt more? [00:14:36] Speaker B: You have to be really hydrated, so. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Really, really hydrated. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So a lot of girls drink Pedialyte instead of. Because it hydrates you more. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Gotta tell. Yeah, I'm gonna tell some people that. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of Pedialyte in my fridge. There's like. What's that for? That's for you. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that's for you. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Drink that shit now. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I, like, literally have a case of Pedialyte just in case. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Wow. No, actually, I'm gonna keep cases of Pedialyte at their house. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Why is it here at my house? Clean. We gonna clean it up? You gonna clean it up? No. We could. No. I'll throw the sheets away, but if it gets everywhere. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:21] Speaker A: I don't want to clean the walls and whatnot. Right. [00:15:24] Speaker B: You gotta do what you gotta do. [00:15:25] Speaker A: You gotta do it. You don't clean it at all. You just let, like, crew do that. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:15:32] Speaker A: See, we don't clean it. We don't clean it. Somebody else is cleaning that. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Have you ever, like. Have you ever, like, squirted, like, somewhere you didn't expect, like, the cameraman was too close or something? You're just like, gotcha, gotcha. [00:15:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but I. You just keep going. [00:15:49] Speaker A: What did. What did the cameraman do? [00:15:52] Speaker B: I think they're kind of trained to, like, just. He was Just stay in it. [00:15:55] Speaker A: He was just like. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah, precisely. [00:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think I'm gonna join this right now. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I know they're probably into it. Like, they know. They know by now. [00:16:11] Speaker A: They know. I saw this video where Cameron got, like, hit with a money shot. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:16:17] Speaker A: He didn't like that? Yeah, he didn't, like. [00:16:19] Speaker B: He was, like, questionable. [00:16:20] Speaker A: He was like. He's like. It was like, all up in his face. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That one's a little questionable. [00:16:27] Speaker A: I don't think he liked the money shot. No, I don't think. [00:16:30] Speaker B: No, I don't think so either. [00:16:32] Speaker A: The guy missed. [00:16:33] Speaker B: That's fly home 1 million chances. To be honest, I've never seen that happen before. [00:16:39] Speaker A: I think it was very purposeful. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Maybe. Anyway. Okay, cool. We are. Well, tell everybody where we can find you. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, my Twitter is Xomckenzie Moss and my Instagram is that blonde brat. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah, there it is. Mackenzie Moss, right here. I'm Javi Mack here with Adult DVD Talk. Living the dream. Thank. Thanks, everybody. Especially Spegler and the whole Spegler team. Thanks. To be with the Spegler girls. Yes. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Love that. [00:17:14] Speaker A: And we'll see you soon. Thanks for watching. Bye.